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January 16, 2008 @ 09:22 PM
Technique

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Imnew the the APC's Medic has helped me out alot, Thx bro

some quick questions, im Looking to go with the NS, But i honestly dont like how tight they are around where it hits my show, will they strech to become wider, not to wide though

Also my jeans i got rite now are 29x32 What would i get for apc's


Apcs can be, skinny/slim or baggy. for the slim fit people usually go down 3 to 2 sizes, baggy id say true size or a size up, but the waist will stretch out so you might want to wear a belt or something to restrict that

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January 16, 2008 @ 09:44 PM
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Oh, so your worried about the length? just go to the tailor and ask them to hem(cut it) to the point where it doesnt touch the shoe, and i dont think the opening is that small

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January 16, 2008 @ 10:21 PM
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try pm'ing him about how his sizing

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January 16, 2008 @ 10:51 PM

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Which one is straight fit/cut?

The tapered ones are a tad too much for me. Anybody with REAL experiences?

Thanks.
January 16, 2008 @ 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jeepster

REFERENCE POINT: This is for APC RAW DENIM, I have no experience with their stretch denim. Feel free to contribute info on the stretch jeans that APC produces for the benefit of everyone!

OK, here goes:
-APC New Standard: Normally, people like to size down between 1-3 on these. They are a straighter legged cut, wider leg openings, and a very standard profile - this is not to say that they are not tapered and slimming; they are, but less so than the NC. This has a lot to do with how much you size down on them: the more you size down, the slimmer the leg will be from the knee down. While they can be worn baggy or tight, that is to the wearer's discretion. New Standards are selvage denim, and if you refer to any picture of them, they will tell you so. NS now come in indigo and black raw denim, so you can go either way. The sizing on the black is a tad bit different due to the denim by affected by a different dye, but it should not affect the overall sizing. YES, these jeans do stretch, that is why you size down considerably from what your real waist is. Knee bulge will happen if you get them sized down considerably, but will not ruin your jeans. If you soak them, they will shrink some and assume a form closer to their original shape. Many dispute whether the indigo and raw black have sizing differences - I believe the raw black are a bit tighter due to the nature of the dye, but because they are APC's, the stretching property of the denim remains the same, and you can safetly assume that the jeans will stretch in time to conform to your body.

-APC New Cure: New Cures are very similar to NS, save for the fact that they are not selvage and have a tapered leg opening. The silhouette is much slimmer and generally tighter. Most people size down only 1-2 (I sized down 2) on these. But, like other APC jeans, they stretch considerably after a couple weeks of wear. APC NC's have been made in indigo and a prewashed grey denim, and there has been no indication that they will be doing black, as of yet. The different between New Cures and Cures is just that, one is a more recent version of the other. The Cure, generally, has been the women's version of the NC, but APC seems to make jeans on a unisex level, so they can go either way. NC's are made from the same selvage denim that the NS's are made from, but the selvage line is removed due to the taper the jean has.

-APC Rescue: I personally have not ever owned one of these, but from what I hear they are a fuller, straighter, and more utilitarian cut. Compared to the NS, the thigh is considerably wider, and from the knee down, the cut is very straight and accomodating. I have been told this is the cut for people with wider quads or thighs or even calves because it is cut to fit a fuller individual. It seems that many people size down 1-2 sizes from the tagged to achieve a comfortable look. Dunno if you can go tight with these like NS's or NC's, but if Rescue warer's want to chip in some info, I'll be happy to add it. They have a much wider leg opening, little to no taper across the board. Rescues are selvage with the visible selvage line like NS's.

DO NOT WORRY IF THEY ARE RIDICULOUSLY STIFF WHEN YOU GET THEM, THAT IS THE NATURE OF QUALITY RAW/DRY DENIM. THEY WILL SOFTEN UP IN ~30 WEARS (2 WEEKS IF YOU WEAR THEM EVERY DAY). THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY WILL BE FLIMSY, IT MEANS THEY WILL ADHERE TO YOUR BODY AND BECOME MORE AND MORE COMFORTABLE. APC DENIM IS TOUGH AS NAILS AND THE ONLY REAL WAY TO RIP THEM IS TO DO SPLITS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL THAT IS.

SO, what have we learned children:
-NS: size down between 1-3, if you're unsure, go 2 or 1. These are tapered-straight leg, and have a wider leg opening than NC's - selvage
-NC: size down between 1-2, if unsure, just 1. These are a tapered straight leg, and have a slimmer opening below the knee than NS's - selvage (selvage line is not visible due to taper)
-Rescue: size down between 1-2, more if needed. Straight leg, fuller thigh and calf area. Full leg opening, little to no taper - selvage
-APC inseams are usually as such: waist 25-30: 32-34" inseam/ waist 31-36: 34-36" inseam

-Many are confused why you size down from the tagged size with APC's - this is known as vanity sizing. This entails that the jeans are cut usually a size or two bigger than what they are tagged as, and because APC denim is normally raw, that they will stretch considerably from the tagged size. DO not fear sizing down, it is your friend!
-When soaking your APC's, it is generally best to do a 2 hour soak in hot water. I am prone to add ~2 small gobs of Woolite Dark, and when they are finished, rap them in a towel, pat till excess water is out, hang to dry, wear if you want them to stretch a bit.
-When washing your APC's, just wash them as you would any regular pair of jeans, but DO NOT put them in the dryer if you are afraid they might shrink too much. Cotton will always shrink when exposed to heat for extended periods of time.
-If you jeans do shrink a bit, do not fear, you can always just stretch them by hand. One handy method is when they are out of the dryer, get a clamp hanger, bring them somewhere where you have enough space to hold them out horizontally, make sure the clamps on the hanger are tight, and pull. This will stretch it a bit, but the most effective way to get your denim to stretch back out is to wear them dry. This may take a couple of hours, so consider washing your jeans on a weekend when you have nothing to do.
-APC's feel a little baggy? Do this to help them form up a bit more: do the steam shower method for removing the smell, take your time in the shower, and then once you are done, let them hang outside. Cotton naturally shrinks in heat, and the steam will tighten up the fibers and make them contract. Hang them outside and let them sit for a bit. When you put them on later, they will be a tad bit more snug than they were, but they will stretch out. This is not a permanent stretching method, this is just something I do to slim them up in the morning's before I put in a full day of wear.

-Smell Tips: As we all know, raw denim requires us not to wash our jeans for 6 months. Well, some of us sweat more than others (I know I do), so our jeans sometimes become a little riper than we want them too - never fear! Here are a few helpful tips to hold of the stench for a bit.

* Soak your jeans: Don't be afraid to give your jeans a nice soak, just follow the instructions I outlined before and they should be fine. If anything, they fade faster after a nice good soaking, and they smell less. They'll be a bit less starchy a stiff, but thats always a plus.
* Fabric Deodorants: Febreeze, bar soap, etc. Don't worry, their not harmful to your jeans. Febreeze is pretty self explanitory. For a quick fix, grab a bar of soap, some paper towel and do as follows. Rub the soap on the paper towel until theres visibly some soap on the towel. Add a bit of water if you want to make it less cake-y. Apply to smelly areas. Let hang for 10-15 minutes while they air out, and you're good to go. If you have other not-harmful-to-fabric deodorants, I'm sure you can utilize them they way you want.
* Don't be afraid to steam your jeans: Get a clamp hanger, run a hot shower, and bring your jeans in with you. Obviously, try not the get them wet, but sometimes its hard not too, don't worry, it can't hurt. Let the shower steam up, open up the buttons and let the steam get into the jeans as much as possible. This, usually requires a longer shower, so do it on an off day. Let them hang in the shower for a bit after you're done so they can get any exess steam.
* Hang them outside: Grab a clamp hanger, and hang them overnight outside. Pretty simple.
* Freezer Method: Fold up the jeans, put a little baking power on smelly areas, and let them sit overnight or for several hours. Should help to remove smell. Can't say if it will save your freezer from the smell though.
* Just wash the damn things if they smell that bad. It's not the end of the world.
* If you get bugs, then thats kinda gross. You should wash them.

NS's, NC's, and Rescue's are all around $140 at most retailers that stock them. If you are unhappy with them once you receive them, do not worry, you can always resell them. There are plenty of people who would take a brand new pair of APC's w/ tags off your hands for close if not the same price as you paid. Also, do yourself a favor and try and go to a store to try them on, its the only real way to be sure of your purchase. NOTE TO RESELLERS/SECONDARY MARKET BUYERS: Ask for measurements... always! You can never be certain of your waist vs. an APC size unless you have proper measurements or are able to try them on! This is a biggie.

Good luck and enjoy your A.P.C's!

Thanks.


Here for all your apc newbs >sad
Credit to APC thread of SUFU.

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January 17, 2008 @ 03:47 PM

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^ thanks for that, im still not sure though.

i have nudie even stevens in a stated 34 waist but there actually over big, but i dont want my jeans to fit very very slim and i like to sag but i like a small leg opening for a good sneaker fit.

im getting the black ns which i have heard are slightly tighter than the indigo, but if i measure my waist im basically a true 34", i know the hem is smaller on a 32 waist ns than a 34 so will i be cool sizing 2 down or do i go true to size?
January 17, 2008 @ 03:57 PM
karl winslow

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when I sized down 1 on my black ns's (I'm a 34 and i ordered a 33), they were a little too tight for MY liking, but i could button them all the way up, and they do stretch, so take that for what its worth?
January 18, 2008 @ 11:32 AM
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A.P.C.'s website has a sneak peak of the Spring '08 collection. They're new grey jeans are SECKS &)
January 18, 2008 @ 02:37 PM

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A.P.C.'s website has a sneak peak of the Spring '08 collection. They're new grey jeans are SECKS &)


depending on the fit and what i thinbk of my black ns when they arrive, those greys are copped!
January 18, 2008 @ 04:33 PM
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Their new look book looks very similar to Nom de Guerre's
January 18, 2008 @ 11:45 PM
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Post teh lookbookz linkz
January 20, 2008 @ 02:30 PM
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Does the leg opening on the NS increase or decrease in size when you size up or down in the waist? Ive got the NS in 28w with a 7 1/2 leg opening.So is a 29w, 30w have a 8 inch leg opening witch is what im after? If someone could measure up there leg openings on there NS 29w, 30w that would be great.
January 20, 2008 @ 02:45 PM
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leg opening increases. it makes since. usually people with bigger waists are taller.


Do you own NS if so whats your waist size and leg opening?
January 21, 2008 @ 07:35 PM
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IM not talking about his size lol, just the style of the denim, how its not to tight around where the denim hits the shoe, is apc ns like that?



the fit in the pic is slim like the New Standard but the leg opening is like the Rescue. if you want a straight leg without it being tight at the shoe, but a slim/straight fit, get the Rescue and size down 2. Rescue's have 2 inches more at the leg opening.

here's how mine rest on my kicks (the pic was taken after a few days of wear, i'm 6 months in now):


i only sized down 1. i love the fit but the waist stretched a lot. i wear a 30 but got a 29. they're probably a 31.5 now. they'd fit like the pic you posted had i got a 28.

Which one is straight fit/cut?

The tapered ones are a tad too much for me. Anybody with REAL experiences?

Thanks.


the Rescue is straight leg. they're not tapered. i'm wearing them now and i love them.

^ thanks for that, im still not sure though.

i have nudie even stevens in a stated 34 waist but there actually over big, but i dont want my jeans to fit very very slim and i like to sag but i like a small leg opening for a good sneaker fit.

im getting the black ns which i have heard are slightly tighter than the indigo, but if i measure my waist im basically a true 34", i know the hem is smaller on a 32 waist ns than a 34 so will i be cool sizing 2 down or do i go true to size?


only go true to size if you don't mind them falling off when you don't have a belt on. if you don't want a tight fit, size down 1. if you're a true 34, get a 33. remember, the waist will stretch 2-3 inches so your 34 will be a 36-37 and too big. just size down 1.
January 21, 2008 @ 08:47 PM
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ugliest cuff ever?
January 21, 2008 @ 11:03 PM

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I thought people said rescues were too baggy?

I like taper but not that much because it looks weird for my sneakers.
January 22, 2008 @ 01:36 PM

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ok my black ns arrived and there perfect, a little stretch and they will be spot on!

now i want the blue ones but the apc website is sold out in 32 where can i get em that will ship to uk?
January 22, 2008 @ 04:05 PM
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ugliest cuff ever?


yeah, lol. i never wear them cuffed though. i just happened to take the pic like that.

I thought people said rescues were too baggy?

I like taper but not that much because it looks weird for my sneakers.


they're not baggy to me but if you want a slimmer fit get the new standard. they shouldn't look bad on your sneakers. they're not that tapered.
January 23, 2008 @ 09:26 AM
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^ yes they are, slightly.
January 23, 2008 @ 09:28 AM
busy_tom

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anyone could please help me to check this jeans ,thanks a lot.
www.hypebeast.com/forum/showthread.php?p=895979#post895979
January 23, 2008 @ 10:44 AM
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ok my black ns arrived and there perfect, a little stretch and they will be spot on!

now i want the blue ones but the apc website is sold out in 32 where can i get em that will ship to uk?

Theres an apc shop in london somewhere (adress is on their website when its working), theres a shop in birmingham that does em as well (also on the apc site) and then theres oipolloi in manchester (oipolloi.com) they have apc on their site but you cant buy online you have to phone order.
January 23, 2008 @ 11:01 AM
busy_tom

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i wear levis size in 30 and i want a pair of apc in regular fit ,which size should i buy ? and how about the shrink ? i really dont kno how the size 29 apc new standard jeans on my legs.i dont like baggy fit.
January 23, 2008 @ 11:22 AM

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Theres an apc shop in london somewhere (adress is on their website when its working), theres a shop in birmingham that does em as well (also on the apc site) and then theres oipolloi in manchester (oipolloi.com) they have apc on their site but you cant buy online you have to phone order.


i live in manc, oi polloi have fook all left will look at the place in ldn and brum!

anyone know an online store?
January 23, 2008 @ 07:25 PM

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yeah, lol. i never wear them cuffed though. i just happened to take the pic like that.



they're not baggy to me but if you want a slimmer fit get the new standard. they shouldn't look bad on your sneakers. they're not that tapered.


So new standard are SLIGHTLY tapered?
Do you got a picture of your rescues
How do they fit compared to Cheap Mondays? I had a pair and they've stretched out kinda nice. It's tapered, but only a bit too.

I wear mostly js and ams and sbs (sometime).

Thanks
January 23, 2008 @ 11:39 PM
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anyone could please help me to check this jeans ,thanks a lot.
www.hypebeast.com/forum/showthread.php?p=895979#post895979


not sure if those are legit, because next to the size is usually the model aka new standard / new cure or whatever.

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January 23, 2008 @ 11:43 PM
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i have been wearing in my rescues for a month or two. they fade well but the fit is a little too baggy
January 24, 2008 @ 02:14 AM
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not sure if those are legit, because next to the size is usually the model aka new standard / new cure or whatever.

thank you.
you mean if there's a model aka new standard or something next to the size then those are legit?
January 24, 2008 @ 09:09 AM
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possibly, because since apc jeans are so plain it could be easy to replicate, maybe ask for a picture of the top fly button. I never seen apc denim with the model on it and just the size

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January 24, 2008 @ 12:26 PM
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smile
January 24, 2008 @ 12:30 PM
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I'm tired of everyone wearing APCs

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