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July 8, 2007 @ 11:50 AM
Leumas

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Join Date: Nov 2006

Location: los - man - yyz

MODS DO NOT DELETE I SEARCED "OFFICIAL AND APC AND DIDN'T GET ANYTHING WHICH WILL HELP PEOPLE WITH THIER JEANS

Any questions or information pertaining to A.P.C. jeans (New Standards, New Cures and Rescue) should go in here.

Where to get A.P.C. jeans

A.P.C. Official Site
www.apc.fr/eu/en/homme_jeans_brut.php

Denim Bar
www.denimbaronline.com/store/index.asp?DEPARTMENT_ID=38&ITEM_BRAND_ID=33&ALL_ITEMS=Y

Context Clothing
www.contextclothing.com/brands/apc/?PHPSESSID=86bfd7ab88640b48d43197911e88f3f7


These sites sell the for $175 + shipping. Sizes always restock so if you cant find your size check back the next week.

Any pictures of your A.P.C.'s can be put in here.

Taken from Superfuture.



-APC New Standard: Normally, people like to size down between 1-3 on these. They are a straighter legged cut, wider leg openings, and a very standard profile - this is not to say that they are not tapered and slimming; they are, but less so than the NC. This has a lot to do with how much you size down on them: the more you size down, the slimmer the leg will be from the knee down. While they can be worn baggy or tight, that is to the wearer's discretion. New Standards are selvage denim, and if you refer to any picture of them, they will tell you so. NS now come in indigo and black raw denim, so you can go either way. The sizing on the black is a tad bit different due to the denim by affected by a different dye, but it should not affect the overall sizing. YES, these jeans do stretch, that is why you size down considerably from what your real waist is. Knee bulge will happen if you get them sized down considerably, but will not ruin your jeans. If you soak them, they will shrink some and assume a form closer to their original shape. Many dispute whether the indigo and raw black have sizing differences - I believe the raw black are a bit tighter due to the nature of the dye, but because they are APC's, the stretching property of the denim remains the same, and you can safetly assume that the jeans will stretch in time to conform to your body.

-APC New Cure: New Cures are very similar to NS, save for the fact that they do not have a visible selvage line and have a tapered leg opening. The silhouette is much slimmer and generally tighter. Most people size down only 1-2 (I sized down 2) on these. But, like other APC jeans, they stretch considerably after a couple weeks of wear. APC NC's have been made in indigo and a prewashed grey denim, and there has been no indication that they will be doing black, as of yet. The different between New Cures and Cures is just that, one is a more recent version of the other. The Cure, generally, has been the women's version of the NC, but APC seems to make jeans on a unisex level, so they can go either way.

-APC Rescue: I personally have not ever owned one of these, but from what I hear they are a fuller, straighter, and more utilitarian cut. Compared to the NS, the thigh is considerably wider, and from the knee down, the cut is very straight and accomodating. I have been told this is the cut for people with wider quads or thighs or even calves because it is cut to fit a fuller individual. It seems that many people size down 1-2 sizes from the tagged to achieve a comfortable look. Dunno if you can go tight with these like NS's or NC's, but if Rescue warer's want to chip in some info, I'll be happy to add it. They have a much wider leg opening, little to no taper across the board. Rescues are selvage with the visible selvage line like NS's.

DO NOT WORRY IF THEY ARE RIDICULOUSLY STIFF WHEN YOU GET THEM, THAT IS THE NATURE OF QUALITY RAW/DRY DENIM. THEY WILL SOFTEN UP IN ~30 WEARS (2 WEEKS IF YOU WEAR THEM EVERY DAY). THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY WILL BE FLIMSY, IT MEANS THEY WILL ADHERE TO YOUR BODY AND BECOME MORE AND MORE COMFORTABLE. APC DENIM IS TOUGH AS NAILS AND THE ONLY REAL WAY TO RIP THEM IS TO DO SPLITS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL THAT IS.

SO, what have we learned:
-NS: size down between 1-3, if you're unsure, go 2 or 1. These are tapered-straight leg, and have a wider leg opening than NC's - selvage
-NC: size down between 1-2, if unsure, just 1. These are a tapered straight leg, and have a slimmer opening below the knee than NS's - selvage (selvage line is not visible due to taper)
-Rescue: size down between 1-2, more if needed. Straight leg, fuller thigh and calf area. Full leg opening, little to no taper - selvage
-APC inseams are usually as such: waist 25-30: 32-34" inseam/ waist 31-36: 34-36" inseam

-Many are confused why you size down from the tagged size with APC's - this is known as vanity sizing. This entails that the jeans are cut usually a size or two bigger than what they are tagged as, and because APC denim is normally raw, that they will stretch considerably from the tagged size. DO not fear sizing down, it is your friend!
-When soaking your APC's, it is generally best to do a 2 hour soak in hot water. I am prone to add ~2 small gobs of Woolite Dark, and when they are finished, rap them in a towel, pat till excess water is out, hang to dry, wear if you want them to stretch a bit.
-When washing your APC's, just wash them as you would any regular pair of jeans, but DO NOT put them in the dryer if you are afraid they might shrink too much. Cotton will always shrink when exposed to heat for extended periods of time.
-If you jeans do shrink a bit, do not fear, you can always just stretch them by hand. One handy method is when they are out of the dryer, get a clamp hanger, bring them somewhere where you have enough space to hold them out horizontally, make sure the clamps on the hanger are tight, and pull. This will stretch it a bit, but the most effective way to get your denim to stretch back out is to wear them dry. This may take a couple of hours, so consider washing your jeans on a weekend when you have nothing to do.
-APC's feel a little baggy? Do this to help them form up a bit more: do the steam shower method for removing the smell, take your time in the shower, and then once you are done, let them hang outside. Cotton naturally shrinks in heat, and the steam will tighten up the fibers and make them contract. Hang them outside and let them sit for a bit. When you put them on later, they will be a tad bit more snug than they were, but they will stretch out. This is not a permanent stretching method, this is just something I do to slim them up in the morning's before I put in a full day of wear.

-Smell Tips: As we all know, raw denim requires us not to wash our jeans for 6 months. Well, some of us sweat more than others (I know I do), so our jeans sometimes become a little riper than we want them too - never fear! Here are a few helpful tips to hold of the stench for a bit.
Soak your jeans: Don't be afraid to give your jeans a nice soak, just follow the instructions I outlined before and they should be fine. If anything, they fade faster after a nice good soaking, and they smell less. They'll be a bit less starchy a stiff, but thats always a plus.Fabric Deodorants: Febreeze, bar soap, etc. Don't worry, their not harmful to your jeans. Febreeze is pretty self explanitory. For a quick fix, grab a bar of soap, some paper towel and do as follows. Rub the soap on the paper towel until theres visibly some soap on the towel. Add a bit of water if you want to make it less cake-y. Apply to smelly areas. Let hang for 10-15 minutes while they air out, and you're good to go. If you have other not-harmful-to-fabric deodorants, I'm sure you can utilize them they way you want.Don't be afraid to steam your jeans: Get a clamp hanger, run a hot shower, and bring your jeans in with you. Obviously, try not the get them wet, but sometimes its hard not too, don't worry, it can't hurt. Let the shower steam up, open up the buttons and let the steam get into the jeans as much as possible. This, usually requires a longer shower, so do it on an off day. Let them hang in the shower for a bit after you're done so they can get any exess steam.Hang them outside: Grab a clamp hanger, and hang them overnight outside. Pretty simple.Freezer Method: Fold up the jeans, put a little baking power on smelly areas, and let them sit overnight or for several hours. Should help to remove smell. Can't say if it will save your freezer from the smell though.Just wash the damn things if they smell that bad.[It's not the end of the world.If you get bugs, then thats kinda gross. You should wash them.NS's, NC's, and Rescue's are all around $140 at most retailers that stock them. If you are unhappy with them once you receive them, do not worry, you can always resell them. There are plenty of people who would take a brand new pair of APC's w/ tags off your hands for close if not the same price as you paid. Also, do yourself a favor and try and go to a store to try them on, its the only real way to be sure of your purchase. NOTE TO RESELLERS/SECONDARY MARKET BUYERS: Ask for measurements... always! You can never be certain of your waist vs. an APC size unless you have proper measurements or are able to try them on! This is a biggie.

July 8, 2007 @ 02:35 PM
inthemiX

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Location: NJ

add www.contextclothing.com to your list!

Self Edge x Real Blue Japan 103BSP sz.34x37 NEW WITH TAGS http://hypebeast.com/forums/apparel/198628

July 8, 2007 @ 03:18 PM
camthraxFHK

Post: 2491

Join Date: Apr 2006

Location: Brooklyn

Anybody have any good tips for washing APCs? I've had mine since last October (not worn everyday...) and its time for a wash. They fall into the absolutely filthy category, so I need to wash in a manner that will kill off any parasites.

If they weren't gross, I would go a month or two more. Also, I think the groin is about to tear, so I guess its time for a wash
July 8, 2007 @ 03:35 PM
Nite

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Location: purgatorio

What would nudie slim jims fit like...New standards?
July 8, 2007 @ 04:46 PM
Silence

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Location: Southern California

Yes NS fit more like jims from what i've read

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July 8, 2007 @ 05:34 PM
Lew

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Location: Los Angeles

which model is not tight fit but instead loose and a baggy fit.

I dont like wearing fitted or tight clothes
July 8, 2007 @ 06:57 PM
Leumas

Post: 1915

Join Date: Nov 2006

Location: los - man - yyz

Anybody have any good tips for washing APCs? I've had mine since last October (not worn everyday...) and its time for a wash. They fall into the absolutely filthy category, so I need to wash in a manner that will kill off any parasites.

If they weren't gross, I would go a month or two more. Also, I think the groin is about to tear, so I guess its time for a wash


i would say soak them in hot water for an hour. you wont lose as much indigo as if you would have washed them.

any more pictures of those apcs? and are the NS?

which model is not tight fit but instead loose and a baggy fit.

I dont like wearing fitted or tight clothes


apc rescues. the have a looser fit than the new cures and new standards.

a.p.c. rescues taken from a supefuture member Deim23











July 8, 2007 @ 08:26 PM
camthraxFHK

Post: 2491

Join Date: Apr 2006

Location: Brooklyn

any more pictures of those apcs? and are the NS?


Per request, and yes, they're new standards. I didn't size down too hard, and I love the way they fit. I normally wear a 35 or 36, and these are 34s.
July 9, 2007 @ 11:06 AM
alsback

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I sized down 3 my waist is just under 34 and i got 31's and after a months wear they stretched out to a little over a 34 suprised
July 9, 2007 @ 11:57 AM

Inactive

Atelier de Production et de Creation,
right?
July 9, 2007 @ 12:00 PM
Leumas

Post: 1915

Join Date: Nov 2006

Location: los - man - yyz

Why do they bleed?


most raw jeans if not all bleed because of the excess indigo(the stuff that makes it blue) in the jeans.
July 9, 2007 @ 02:42 PM
Leumas

Post: 1915

Join Date: Nov 2006

Location: los - man - yyz

try taping the inside on the jeans where it rest on your shoes
July 9, 2007 @ 02:59 PM
CHEEP

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new standards sized down 1... size 29.
July 9, 2007 @ 04:53 PM
Raskol

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Join Date: Jan 2007

there's no real way to stop bleeding. it will go away eventually, so if you really want to avoid it, just wear your new jeans with some shoes and tees that you dont mind getting indigo on. do this until you notice that the bleeding has stopped. and yes, jeans can bleed onto your tees as well.

bleeding is part of the fun of owning a pair of jeans.
July 9, 2007 @ 05:24 PM
camthraxFHK

Post: 2491

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Location: Brooklyn

^^^ I disagree with the fun....

Bleeding happens though. Deal with it. My APCs never really bled that bad interestingly enough... I don't know why.
July 9, 2007 @ 06:03 PM
Leumas

Post: 1915

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Location: los - man - yyz

cheep you only sized down 1 and they were ok?

ive heard of people sizing down three and them stretching out and being too baggy
July 9, 2007 @ 06:53 PM
camthraxFHK

Post: 2491

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Location: Brooklyn

^^^ It depends. If you can fill out the anti-fit seat, then down 1 is good enough. Cheap probably sizes down everything though. I only see him in raw denim.
July 9, 2007 @ 06:54 PM

Inactive

I sized down one and my apcs fit like ass.
July 9, 2007 @ 09:12 PM
Leumas

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shoulda size down at least 2^^
July 9, 2007 @ 11:32 PM
inthemiX

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I definately should have sized down 2 on mine. I only sized down one and I regret it.

Self Edge x Real Blue Japan 103BSP sz.34x37 NEW WITH TAGS http://hypebeast.com/forums/apparel/198628

July 9, 2007 @ 11:42 PM
soundbomber

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I think sizing down 3 is perfect.
July 10, 2007 @ 12:22 AM

Inactive

I think sizing down 3 is perfect.


Yeah if I do go with APC again I think I'll go with a 27, maybe a 26.
July 10, 2007 @ 02:54 AM
alsback

Post: 380

Join Date: Dec 2006

I think sizing down 3 is perfect.


ehh it all depends i feel that 3 was still not enough for me, my waist basically measures 34 exactly on its smallest point and i got 31's and after a month they were an inch too big on me and the thighs stretched too much and they fit totally different from when i first started wearing them...with this being said if i do buy another pair of apcs im ganna get 30's if not im buying a pair of pure blues or flat heads.
July 10, 2007 @ 04:11 AM
Darkadious

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^ that happens with most denim..
July 10, 2007 @ 06:37 AM
CHEEP

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^^^ It depends. If you can fill out the anti-fit seat, then down 1 is good enough. Cheap probably sizes down everything though. I only see him in raw denim.


i never size down. if you dont struggle to button your jeans you wont stretch them too much. the more stress you put on them the more they stretch, and the more you blow out the crotch.
July 10, 2007 @ 07:01 AM
grits

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I didn't size down too hard, and I love the way they fit. I normally wear a 35 or 36, and these are 34s.



funny, i wear the same size as you...and i got people on this forum telling me i'm some fat bastard. lol...

and regarding the bleeding issue you spoke on...

i've been wearing mine for weeks now, with no bleeding what so ever. doesn't even look like they're fading at all. just a bunch of creases in the stiff areas behind the knees, by the cuff, and near the groin.
July 10, 2007 @ 07:16 AM
soleFLY

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Location: LAWTOWN

i plan on buying my first pair of quality denim...so i usually buy 31..would 30 be too big for APC Rescues?

and by sizing down are u suggesting that they come already with a larger than listed waist or that they will stretch to a larger waist?
July 10, 2007 @ 08:55 AM
CHEEP

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get some dior... hedi actually based the dior cut off of APC.
July 10, 2007 @ 09:09 AM
Leumas

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never knew that^
July 10, 2007 @ 09:36 AM
mrsneakerpimp

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hmmmm i thought there was a way to prevent the bleeeding

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