@bak I wasn't familiar with the jeans but I looked em up and they look sort of like a levis 510 cut, so yeah I gotcha. glad I could help a little.
@Goki: totally agree with you with what you're saying about unbranded and that the price of APC is a little off, but what people love about APC besides the cuts are the minimalist designs and the way they fade.. its easy, cheap compared to the big hardcore brands, and simply cut, nice jeans. especially before when they were a lot cheaper. APC allowed this whole thing to grow a bit and now we have naked and famous and brands like that, that have stepped up the quality people are really beginning to question apc and try different things. but yah i think that its just really up to the person and what they are looking for in their jeans, but now there are definitely a lot more options out there where you don't have to drop like 300-400 bucks
yeah, I get what you're saying. a couple years back when apc and nudie was really all there was before the jump to $300+ japanese denim, they were a legit option. I purchased mine for the $150, and was fine with that. but now they're just what, $165, $175+ for some chinese denim assembled in macau. I feel like if you're interested in spending that much on a pair of jeans already, you should consider spending a little more and get something a step up. not saying that all the expensive japanese denim is completely justified in price, but usually you do get what you pay for.
I feel like the whole raw denim thing used to turn people off by the high price points, but nowadays when even gap is offering some raw selvedge denim for $50-70, it's a lot more accessible to the consumer nowadays. I'm just saying that the unbranded are probably a better choice for the prices and everything considered; their whole gimmick is minimalist too, after all, and you can find these jeans CHEAP. I've been at urban outfitter sales where they're $30 each, and one of my friend's roommates went in to purchase a pair only to find out he was charged $8 for them. at that point, you really can't beat that.
anyway I guess I shouldn't knock apc I guess because they get business and some people just wear nothing but their jeans.. just saying, from someone who's gone through nudies, apcs, naked and famous, and now working on a pair of flatheads (and seen about 6 different pairs of unbrandeds fade firsthand), I just feel like people could get a little more for their money. but at the end of the day, it's your money and you should buy what you like. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, I just want to get a somewhat knowledgable viewpoint out there.
sorry for off topic considering this is the fit thread