I don't think that answered my question as to the value of the material compared to the past, or if they changed their material at all. But, good to know i guessOriginally posted by Inactive Userthe fades come out well, the knee bulges can be minimized if you do it properly and although the jeans do get tears, it adds character to your pair.Are the recent APC denim materials still good quality? I've been hearing from someone that they sourced their denim elsewhere now, and the quality isn't as good. Anyone have any ideas on this? I figured they were still sourcing from Kaihara.