I'm trying to get a system too. Although these suck compared to the JL's you listed, I just got on the Best Buy deal where you buy a qualifying sub & get a box for free. You might wanna look at that out @fooloozero http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=category&id=pcmcat257500050026 . I did 2 separate orders & got 2 12" Kickers, a 12" ported enclosure, & a 10" ported enclosure (to sell) for $107. Plus I heard ported boxes are better than sealed depending on the type of music you listen to.