Does horsepower mean everything?

December 04, 2009 @ 04:48:25
so i was doing some research on a few cars that my classmates have. an 05 sti has around 220 horses stock and a four cylinder engine. my eclipse gt has 268 horses, a 6 cylinder engine and is front wheel drive. i get a lot of shit for my car for obvious reasons, and the only aspect of my car that gets some respect is the stock horsepower. so i just wanna know if my car can beat the sti on the quarter mile?
December 04, 2009 @ 06:31:30
Lulz.... an STI makes 300 stock on that flat four BOXER motor bud.
The WRX is the one that makes around 220
Even then, doesnt the Eclipse only make 210 max stock? A WRX will even take you.

The STI gonna eat you up!

FWD FTLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!11!!!!!1!one
December 04, 2009 @ 06:57:06
Boxer or not, it's still a four cyl.

Moving on, you'll get eaten. I'm assuming you've got the newer Eclipse with the MIVEC V6 in it? If so, you've got a whole 'lot of catching up to do. That's a heavy car.
December 04, 2009 @ 07:08:49
Ok its a 4 banger....so whats your point?
December 04, 2009 @ 14:12:42
no i have 268 stock. and yeah it's a crappy sport car. im gonna get rid of it after schooling.
December 04, 2009 @ 14:26:53
Traction, Torque and vehicle weight means the most....and also driver means a ton if the car you own is on the same level as the one you are racing.........In your case you aren't.

You will lose unless your boy mishifts or his car is a POS
December 04, 2009 @ 14:29:28
what about an 03 is300?

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December 04, 2009 @ 14:39:35
hahaha for a lot of my classmates, that is their mentality.
December 04, 2009 @ 16:31:06
I think the 03 IS300 will be a close race.
But honestly I think Eclipses are lame and chick cars lol, no offense.

The STI will eat you alive lol.
December 04, 2009 @ 16:55:04
why did u get an eclipse gt, lots of money wasted on a ehh car. should have gona used sti/evo or even a gti (not fast, but dope)
December 04, 2009 @ 17:42:49
The IS300 would be a close race, but I give it a slight edge and it might come down to driver skill. An STI would destroy you, assuming the driver isn't retarded.
December 04, 2009 @ 18:25:20
Not to mention your FWD which means your not even getting all the power to your wheels... there is a huge difference from what you make at the crank and what ends up at the wheels. You could probably take him off the line if he doesn't know how to launch but he'll smoke your as midway through 2nd gear even if he does a bad launch. Like Citizen said though Torque is where its at...

-THiZZ
December 04, 2009 @ 20:13:48
why did u get an eclipse gt, lots of money wasted on a ehh car. should have gona used sti/evo or even a gti (not fast, but dope)


unlike many kids here, i dont live with much money. i can't just point at a car i want and have it. if that was the case i would be in an evo or sti right now. i was at a used car auction and my mom gave me two rules. no manual and must be affordable. the best car that fit those limitations was the eclipse. so i really didn't have too many options. it has very low mileage so chances of any mechanical problems were low. that's why i ended up with a freaking eclipse. i was also on my winter break during my college years and needed a car right away. and no, i wouldn't have gotten a civic i hate those things.
December 04, 2009 @ 21:18:45
unlike many kids here, i dont live with much money. i can't just point at a car i want and have it. if that was the case i would be in an evo or sti right now. i was at a used car auction and my mom gave me two rules. no manual and must be affordable. the best car that fit those limitations was the eclipse. so i really didn't have too many options. it has very low mileage so chances of any mechanical problems were low. that's why i ended up with a freaking eclipse. i was also on my winter break during my college years and needed a car right away. and no, i wouldn't have gotten a civic i hate those things.


how much did you pay? i'm gonna assume low teens

in that case, you had plenty of better options, including a preowned rx-8, 350z, gti, civic si, mach 1, and many other cars

in fact, i would actually take a civic over an eclipse

its reliable, practical, gets good gas mileage, and doesnt scream "LOOK AT ME. I THOUGHT I WAS BUYING A SPORTSCAR BUT REALLY I BOUGHT A BLOATED PIECE OF SHIT"

no offense blushing

Melo Gang All Day

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December 05, 2009 @ 00:47:21
Traction, Torque and vehicle weight means the most....and also driver means a ton if the car you own is on the same level as the one you are racing.........In your case you aren't.

You will lose unless your boy mishifts or his car is a POS


true.

PLus. Were your torque is placed on what powerbands(range of RPM) makes a difference. YOu want it start at the RPM when you downshift. The fastest drag racer has a Torque graph which is very straight i believe.
He could have 500 PEAK horsepower but it could take him 1 minute to get there. And you can have 200 HP and it could take you 1 second to get there. Who will win in a 1.4 mile race?
December 05, 2009 @ 05:49:04
What year is your Eclipse?
December 05, 2009 @ 15:33:16
most people get whatever their parents drove and shit.


Hehe I haz clean ass 91 Integra. I never complained.
December 05, 2009 @ 16:39:11
it's an 06 eclipse. im pretty happy i have a potential buyer : ) trying to sell it away for 13k. what car should i look into for that price? something around 15k is ok too. im thinking about an is300, and older wrx, or something that's sporty and awd.
December 05, 2009 @ 17:45:27
If you want a Subaru go look on nasioc.com and check the regional classifieds. There are a shit load of cars you can find right now around that price range. I'd get a 06 wagon....those are dope.
December 05, 2009 @ 18:44:34
it's an 06 eclipse. im pretty happy i have a potential buyer : ) trying to sell it away for 13k. what car should i look into for that price? something around 15k is ok too. im thinking about an is300, and older wrx, or something that's sporty and awd.


B5 1.8T Quattro is another option in that price range.
December 05, 2009 @ 20:07:55
I don't even know why you said this.


he said he didn't want a civic, he hates those cars

i think an 04/05 wrx with an older owner would be a great car schao. just make sure you're not buying off a young guy, the transmissions are an issue on those cars, especially when ragged on.

Melo Gang All Day

December 05, 2009 @ 20:20:34
^ha. that's funny cause an 05 wrx was the first car i test drove. i was about to buy it for 15 grand but it had a salvage title and my mechanic gave a huge WTF when he looked under the hood so i didn't buy it. i guess it's just fate that i must own a wrx since it's been brought up so much to me. in the near future..
December 05, 2009 @ 20:25:20
yeah don't buy anything salvaged or modified, especially with those cars. yes there's an off chance that you find someone who modified it yet didnt thrash it and knew what they were doing, but that's typically not the case

Melo Gang All Day

December 08, 2009 @ 11:15:57
it's an 06 eclipse. im pretty happy i have a potential buyer : ) trying to sell it away for 13k. what car should i look into for that price? something around 15k is ok too. im thinking about an is300, and older wrx, or something that's sporty and awd.


ha if you want an 03 wrx for 11k with a brand new rebuit engine with new pistons, top end, heads and radiator then pm me.
December 09, 2009 @ 10:50:04
Please learn more about cars before you buy another, especially if you get an Evo or STi.
By the way, I bought a 2003 Evo with 50k miles for 8500 + my eclipse gsx.

And even if the owner of the STi didn't know how to launch, he would still beat you off of the line and smoke you to the finish. They are low 13 second cars out of the box. Your eclipse would pull a high 15 to low 16.
December 09, 2009 @ 20:35:28
^actually im studying automotive right now.
December 10, 2009 @ 00:12:58
yea man, low mile wrx is a great option. If you need any help looking for one or want more info hit up Iwsti or nasioc like Ferris said. feel free to pm me too if u want, I wouldn't mind trying to help you out if I can, I'm fairly active on iwsti.
December 10, 2009 @ 03:28:47
268 to the wheel?
or on the motor?
If on the motor you'll really only going to be getting about 230-240 hp.
Horse power isn't shit if you don't have the right tire's, weight, body, etc.
Some Roll's Royce have over 500 hp, you don't see them going over 180^.
Subaru will eat it.
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