Official FIFA World Cup Germany 2006 Thread

[Admin]

The world cup is only 3 weeks away so I have decided to create this thread for all talk about the event. I have also created a poll where you can vote on who'll win the cup.

Lets start off with talk on your predictions or teams you support.

Mine are Brazil, Korea, Japan and Mexico.

[Ron]

Brazil, Germany, Mexico, and US.

[cubbyfresh]

Brazil WILL win the WC. There is no doubt in my mind that they are the BEST. Have you seeing who the selected were? Its a dream team.

Game Over for the rest of the WORLD.

[MR.lego]

ENGLAND

[football hooligan]COME ON YOU LIONS[football hooligan]

i dont think it will be as easy as it was for brazil previous world cup as most teams have improved with there young talent and balanced teams out with youngsters and more experienced players

dont forget france are there and zidan has come out retirment and henry looks like this will be his world cup so dont count them out......

and gerard is on FIRE who saw his goals in the fa cup final if rooney becomes fit in time i say england have a good chance aswel if fixtures go our way

[unklecleetus]

It'a all about Argentina mang!!!! If not Argentina(which it will be) than Brazil or France.

[Admin]

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[PaperSteadyGro]

oh boy of course.. Brazil... Ronaldo to Ronaldhino Soccer Legends.. lol Ronaldinho gon do his thing this WC.. watch out for him, even though at barcelona game wasnt too effective to him.. he good GEREAT lol

[flyboy]

england have a chance but only if wonder boy wayne rooney is ready and sven has the ballz to drop becks and lampard and let stevie G do his ting

[Nykola]

Braziiiil of course but France and Germany can be ousiders I believe ;-)

[doloveira]

my homeland is taking this. brasil sexta. *****s know.

[deadstock_sole]

Brazil. but if they do get upset, ITALY!!, and maybe Japan or Germany.

[ThierryHenry]

I really hope brazil doesnt win it, id love to see them get upset. Dream Come true: Brazil faces USA after the group stages and gets upset, then who cares who wins haha. Im rootin for Engerland, US, France, or Spain. I feel like itd be most appreciated by England as they are the most fanatic, but itd be happy with france or spain taking it cuz i like a lot of their individual players. And of course the good ol US of A... (not holdin my breath though...)

[909jenius]

England will take the world cup this year, they have too much talent. They willl be facing BRAZIL in the final but ENGLAND will put an upset. England has everything from keeper to forward. JOE COLE will come up big this year, him, lampard, and gerrard are the brain to this team. Even though my team is MEXICO they will lose bad beccause they didnt take el" CUAH". :P :P 8) ?)

[LOLer2k1]

i hope that germany wins but i dont thing that they will win ;).
im from frankfurt and they installed a huge video wall and they stream all the games live. the crazy thing about this video wall is thats in the middle of the river.check out the pics i took from the opening game :D.

http://www.directupload.net/images/060609/temp/gcN3feVs.jpg (http://www.directupload.net/show/d/723/gcN3feVs.jpg)

http://www.directupload.net/images/060609/temp/kSkTbAWI.jpg (http://www.directupload.net/show/d/723/kSkTbAWI.jpg)

http://www.directupload.net/images/060609/temp/hL9ynjCb.jpg (http://www.directupload.net/show/d/723/hL9ynjCb.jpg)

[Ron]

^Damn crazy.

[pdubbs]

sweden woop woop woop woop woop woop woop woop woop (football chant)

[yvr76]

haha haven't decided who to root for yet. Brazil's a little too obvious... Maybe I'll go with something left field.

[Drebrooklyn]

Brazil has it again...nobody else is even close

[MR.lego]

why is this thread so low on replies don't use males like FOOTBALL ?

arent you supporting ur home nations ?

what the fuck is happening world cup started yesterday and not one comment fuck about. . .
:o

[MR.lego]

Brazil has it again...nobody else is even close

excuse me if you watchd argentina play ivory coast boy . . .
anyway lets just watch all the teams play first then decide

because england destroyed paraguya in the first half and looked every bit the team with rooney on the bench
and lampard and gerard not playing there best football

[Class]

i dunno, its just that brazil is so talented.

[Kristoffer]

excuse me if you watchd argentina play ivory coast boy . . .
Then you would have seen an argentinian team lacking any form of creativity or offensive play in the second half, yes.. And Didier Drogba doing what he does best despite bad officiating.

Game of the Day: Argentina-Ivory Coast. (2-1)

Player of the Day: Shaka Hislop (6 saves vs Sweden)

Disappointment of the Day: Sweden v Trinidad & Tobago (goalless with players like Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Henrik Larsson ?))

Game Ruiner of the Day: Marco Rodriguez (England - Paraguay Ref)

Goal of the Day: Didier Drogba 2-1 vs Argentina (for lack of better really.. and partially for how much he wanted it)

Also i didn't see why Argentinas 3-1 goal was cancelled, didn't seem like a true offside...
Edit:
Jersey of the Day: Le Coq Sportif Argentina Jersey that Maradona was wearing in the stands while partying his ass off, lol.

[hasejun1985]

waiting to see netherlands!!!!

[Denny Crane]

Wow, Australia beat Japan 3-1. And all of Australia's goals were scored in the last 6 minutes.

Yeah!

[MR.lego]

waiting to see netherlands!!!!

they played on sunday and beat serbia 1 : 0

and fr those who missed the second goal against america
http://www.rwdmag.com//forum/images/avatars/1003951984448e087786c15.gif
Rosicky, his gonna be foine arsenal player nxt season

[cubbyfresh]

excuse me if you watchd argentina play ivory coast boy . . .
anyway lets just watch all the teams play first then decide

because england destroyed paraguya in the first half and looked every bit the team with rooney on the bench
and lampard and gerard not playing there best football


Please, Ivory Coast is one of the weaker teams in the Cup and Argentina was having problems despite their win.

England DID NOT destroy Paraguay, if it weren't for the autogoal they would have settled for a draw. England is going nowhere. Beckham is washed up garbage, he hasn't done anything in years.

Please keep your money in your pockets because BRAZIL is taking this the whole way. Most teams are good, 2 deep, maybe 3, but Brazil is 10 Deep.:P >:(

[Icer]

Ronaldo was cool on the Brazil Croatia match. He was just chilling on the filed.
But Croatia was really good.
Today I go to the Fan fest in Stuttgart like this one in Frankfurt LOLer2k1 has upload the pics. I was on the first fan fest last Friday in Stuttgart it was a very cool atmosphere there.

But I hope that someone kicks the ass of Switzerland out! Because the have kicked out turkey  :(

[MR.lego]

Please, Ivory Coast is one of the weaker teams in the Cup and Argentina was having problems despite their win.

England DID NOT destroy Paraguay, if it weren't for the autogoal they would have settled for a draw. England is going nowhere. Beckham is washed up garbage, he hasn't done anything in years.

Please keep your money in your pockets because BRAZIL is taking this the whole way. Most teams are good, 2 deep, maybe 3, but Brazil is 10 Deep.:P >:(

if thats what you think

so far in the world cup they have been the most impressive team with exception to portugal or italy. . .imo (they never let ivory coast boss them around the pitch like i thought they would, ivory coast being so hench and full of put backs)

like i said before england destoryed paraquay in the first half and if you wish not to agree you must have not wtchd the match
beckham washed up ok 31years old and still the world best crosser, dead ball specialist and long ball passer


and brazil dont get be me wrong they probly are the best in tornement but but on yesterdays display they aint winning shit
ronaldo ran faster coming off the pitch than when he was on it . . .
the whole team was poor come to think of it except the defence which was decent

[XXeyes]

ivory coast weak? i think not, they have plenty of quality and played well against argentina.

england diappeared in 2nd half against paraguay and even with rooney i dont think their performances are good enought to win WC.

brasil are best team by far on paper. but history of the WC goes against them. i doubt they will win it tbh, they will go close though.

[Admin]

Korea game was good yesterday!

France vs Swiss was boring.

Watched half way through the Brazil game and was too drunk to continue. But yay they won!

[LOLer2k1]

things are looking pretty good for spain. 4:0 8)

[cubbyfresh]

if thats what you think

so far in the world cup they have been the most impressive team with exception to portugal or italy. . .imo (they never let ivory coast boss them around the pitch like i thought they would, ivory coast being so hench and full of put backs)

like i said before england destoryed paraquay in the first half and if you wish not to agree you must have not wtchd the match
beckham washed up ok 31years old and still the world best crosser, dead ball specialist and long ball passer


and brazil dont get be me wrong they probly are the best in tornement but but on yesterdays display they aint winning shit
ronaldo ran faster coming off the pitch than when he was on it . . .
the whole team was poor come to think of it except the defence which was decent


This is why I love the WC, everyone has different opinions and roots for their desired team. If everyone went for Brazil then it'd be pretty boring.

Don't get me wrong, ALL the teams in the WC are good, they have fought hard to be in the WC but lets be real, some teams are not that good against the powerhouses, but there is no way to write the WC, anything can happen.

I can't believe that the US is ranked #5 in the world and Mexico #4. Please, those teams are way over ranked. Mexico will probably not make it past the sweet 16 and the US will not even make it past the 1st round. They are in a tough group. they have a better squad then 4 years ago but their group is way too strong for them.

enjoy the WC fellas.

[tomxkaws]

spain for me, young intelligent talent in every position with a couple of experienced world class players like puyol and raul! fabregas and torres are on fire

im a great fan of spain and really hope they do well. if not spain, i hope holland win it.. i like dutch people and enjoy watching van persie play

france will never win, they do not gel together as a team. the current french team lack in passion although having some of the best players in the world

bollocks to england, those flags on every car killed it for me.. besides being a rape country when it comes to tax's

[strummer]

Great start for Spain, hoping they can finally win a major tournament as I've backed em, also backed Mexico as my big outsiders. Hopefully we'll see England lose on pens yet again :)

[deadstock_sole]

Italy for me. I think Brazil will get upset in the finals though. England or Italy will beat them. I think Mexico has an outside chance though.

[strummer]

Be quite happy to see Italy knocked out quite early, they just always seem so boring to watch, get a goal and settle for that, with the players they have I'd love too see em play a more attacking game!!!

[Subculture]

Yes...i was the one who voted USa :)

[hasejun1985]

Netherlands!! to the next round!!!

[Ron]

USA FTW today -.-

[sneaker_ivan]

just vote for Argentina today
they r insane....6-0 ytd
players are on fire!!!!!!!!

[hasejun1985]

USA got lucky...

[Admin]

japan vs crotia 0 - 0

goodbye japan! :(

[sneaker_ivan]

dont say gdbye to JAPAN!!! they will beat Brazil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD

[Denny Crane]

dont say gdbye to JAPAN!!! they will beat Brazil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD

Haha, Japan lost to Australia 3-1, Australia lost to Brazil 2-0... If we lived in a perfectly logical world Brazil would beat Japan by 4 goals. But I'd love to see Brazil lose.

Australia only needs a draw against Croatia to go to the second round.

[deadstock_sole]

OMG I can't believe Italy tied USA.

[Azz]

argies look amazing they smashed s and m

[Egpt!?]

keep your eyes on portugal my friends...
:)
and i ain´t even doing the "root for my national team" thing. you shall see you fooooolllss!!

[hasejun1985]

GOOD BYE USA + JAPAN!

[Ron]

USA FTL :<

[SoenSole]

come BACK USA!!

ehh..

go spain!

[asia_minor]

italia is going to win



puma x italy
football shirts

pretty sicknasty

[Johan_Schnoeper]

HUP HOLLAND HUP!

[hasejun1985]

damn my sweden is gone.............

okay netherlands really need to win to keep my interest around.

[Chopstickz]

"THREE LIONS ON A SHIRT!!....."

COME ON ENGLAND!

[Johan_Schnoeper]

damn :( Holland's out :(

[Egpt!?]

keep your eyes on portugal my friends...
:)
and i ain´t even doing the "root for my national team" thing. you shall see you fooooolllss!!


8)

[Admin]

nooo my spainnnnn

[Chopstickz]

"THREE LIONS ON A SHIRT!!....."

COME ON ENGLAND!

:)

[Egpt!?]

england is going down also.
do you know when they won against portugal the last time?1966 ahahah.
ya'll just a bunch of hooligans that like beer way to much.

[Dubz]

england is going down also.
do you know when they won against portugal the last time?1966 ahahah.
ya'll just a bunch of hooligans that like beer way to much.

Hi Egpt

So England are "just a bunch of hooligans that like beer way to much"

We could meet up and discuss this over a pint and a scrap if you want!!!

dubz

[Chopstickz]

england is going down also.
do you know when they won against portugal the last time?1966 ahahah.
ya'll just a bunch of hooligans that like beer way to much.

24 Jun 04 v Portugal drew 2-2
18 Feb 04 v Portugal drew 1-1
07 Sep 02 v Portugal drew 1-1
12 Jun 00 v Portugal lost 3-2
22 Apr 98 v Portugal won 3-0
12 Dec 95 v Portugal drew 1-1


Step your football knowledge game up...

Your going down

[Egpt!?]

Step your football knowledge game up...

Your going down

i´m talking about games that actually matter, not some shitty friendly

[Egpt!?]

Hi Egpt

So England are "just a bunch of hooligans that like beer way to much"

We could meet up and discuss this over a pint and a scrap if you want!!!

dubz

no problem, let me know when you come to portugal if you are really that much into me.

[Chopstickz]

Games that matter... we've won more games that matter than you ever will.

How many times has Portugal won the World Cup? |0

[ThierryHenry]

Games that matter... we've won more games that matter than you ever will.

How many times has Portugal won the World Cup? |0


O SNAP! YEA HE WENT THERE! haha

Anyone else very dissapointed that Argentina didnt see off Germany?? I HATE Germany! GL to Engerland tho, def wouldnt mind seein them win the cup. God knows their fans need it....8)

[Egpt!?]

Games that matter... we've won more games that matter than you ever will.

How many times has Portugal won the World Cup? |0


i was talking about portugal vs england games. for an english native speaker you got some speech understanding issues there. you are gonna lose just like in the last euro and world cup. remember? lol

[Chopstickz]

i was talking about portugal vs england games. for an english native speaker you got some speech understanding issues there. you are gonna lose just like in the last euro and world cup. remember? lol

English isn't my native tongue, so you can shove that up your arse.

My understanding issues are fine... seems you have a problem clearly stating what you mean.

Keep trying, maybe one day your boys will get there...

Awww look, Portugal has one vote, how cute.

[Egpt!?]

English isn't my native tongue, so you can shove that up your arse.

My understanding issues are fine... seems you have a problem clearly stating what you mean.

Keep trying, maybe one day your boys will get there...

Awww look, Portugal has one vote, how cute.


so, no more smart talk now?lol
who won the game? i missed the game so i don´t know the result
















cry me a riiiiiiver

[Egpt!?]

Awww look, Portugal has one vote, how cute.


yeah, it´s hard being the only one right here :(

[Luxurious]

England are out. :P

[Luxurious]

Brazil are OUT!! :o

[ThierryHenry]

Henry To the Rescue!!! France are through!!!! >:(

Sorry Engerland, portugal handed it to ya with those 2 consecutive misses but ricardo came up HUGE!!!

France Germany in the Final
France to upset the hosts

[Chopstickz]

so, no more smart talk now?lol
who won the game? i missed the game so i don´t know the result
















cry me a riiiiiiver

Good luck, you guys played awful.. and couldn't even beat us with the extra man. Not something to be proud of.

Smart talk? Your the one talking trash and coming out with facts that aren't true.

Like I said, good luck (your gonna need it)... hopefully this year might be your year


NOT

[Egpt!?]

Good luck, you guys played awful.. and couldn't even beat us with the extra man. Not something to be proud of.

Smart talk? Your the one talking trash and coming out with facts that aren't true.

Like I said, good luck (your gonna need it)... hopefully this year might be your year


NOT
cry me a riiiiiiiiiiiiver.


and you are wrong, we beated you in the end lol.
you had 1 less guy and 9 players defending lol, how are we supposed to play?
i don't care about the way england played since i didn´t pay for a ticket at the world cup, but they played so stupidly defending 90% of the time that i pity the people that actually payed for a ticket there.
good job on the penalties though.

now just sit back and watch the 4 best national teams in the world play, okay?

[Egpt!?]

Step your football knowledge game up...

Your going down

and you are the one coming up with facts that are not true...see?

we did not go down.

well, don´t feel so bad, you will have the euro in 2 years, hopefully you will do better than the last one

[Chopstickz]

We defended 90% of the time? You obviously didn't watch the match!

We played better with 10 men than you did with 11.

4 Best national teams play? Lol... watch todays match and say that again.

[Egpt!?]

We defended 90% of the time? You obviously didn't watch the match!

We played better with 10 men than you did with 11.

4 Best national teams play? Lol... watch todays match and say that again.


u are clearly on crack.
we played better, you defended 90% of the time. we won against you last euro(the one in which portugal got to the final, 2 years ago, know what i am talking about?), and we won against you in the last world cup. what more proofs do you need to understand that Portugal IS better than England?


i swear, i love when people get delusional after losing soccer matches ahah.


come on, don´t cry more, you will have football in the next premier league season, championship which is also ruled by a portuguese coach, but for now just watch the top 4 seeds play in the WC.
face the facts, u suck

[ice grillz]

HA, WHO VOTED FOR FRANCE?

I DID.

[Egpt!?]

HA, WHO VOTED FOR FRANCE?

I DID.


666 posts! don´t post more!

[sneaker_ivan]

for me i think the result will be sa follows:
1st France
2nd Germany
3rd Portugal
4th Italy

[Egpt!?]

i think it will be italy and portugal making it to the finals.

[Egpt!?]

let´s hope i will be as right about portugal game as i was about todays italy-germany ahah

[ThierryHenry]

Hey i saw this and thought it was pretty funny/interesting. This is why i hate christiano ronaldo. Portugal are gonna get their asses handed to em today. France/Italy final France to lift it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylMqeyMgsxs

[Egpt!?]

yeah, blame c.ronaldo for rooney stepping on carvalho´s balls and pushing ronaldo and saying "fuck you" to him right in front of the referee.
how dumb can one be?

anyone who ever played teamsports knows that what ronaldo did is something that happens a lot when you are in the heat of the game. it happens all the time but there are only so many fools like rooney that actually respond to it.

[A]

Italia will take it home! I'm all for Italia (it's my country!... well one of them.)

By the way, that Germany/Italia game was fucking great, I almost punched someone behind me when they scored those two goals. I watched it at a Mexican Restaurant in Coney Island, shit was awesome.

[belladonna]

forza azzuri ;p

[deadstock_sole]

Told you guys. I was the first one to vote for the Azzuri. It will be a Italy/France final. Italy will lift the World Cup for the first time since 1982. Gigi Buffon will get MVP.

[Azz]

i like christiano but he is very annoying at times dont call him ronaldo pleas he does not deserve that name

[Egpt!?]

i like christiano but he is very annoying at times dont call him ronaldo pleas he does not deserve that name

his name is in fact cristiano, not christiano.
well, it was a good game today, shame that france had to win.
ricardo carvalho did not deserve things to end like this for him though, he is probably the best defender in the world at the moment.



i am all for italy now :)

[ThierryHenry]

Looks like Zidane and Company will lift their 2nd world cup in 12 years...

Not too shabby!



It was nice seeing poor cristiano ronaldo cryin like the little bitch he is after they lost. At least Henry was nice enough to console him hahahaha

I really think its gonna be a good game. Although i have no doubt in my mind les bleus will handle their biz

Watch out for Zidane this game people, im tellin you its gonna be his best game of the tournament. He's a living legend8)

[deadstock_sole]

Naw my friend.^^ Soon me and many others will be buying Italia jerseys with 4 stars on top of the crest instead of 3. Italy all the way. And if the game goes to extratime, Italy will win for sure.

[A]

Did anyone see the Portugal/France game!? Major upset, I thought Portugal would take it home, I only wanted them to win because I'm part spanish, but don't really give a shit who won, because anyone facing Italia will get rocked, sorry to say. I even told this drunk french guy that shit, he was like "Oh italy is good too.... hehehe" I was like "Damn right motherfucker, and we gonna kick frances bous wa biotch!" He was scared shit hahaha, but anyway, at least he commented about italy, so I gave france props too, AFTER.

GO GO GO ITALIA!

[Azz]

his name is in fact cristiano, not christiano.
well, it was a good game today, shame that france had to win.
ricardo carvalho did not deserve things to end like this for him though, he is probably the best defender in the world at the moment.



i am all for italy now :)

okay but carvalho the best defender is an opinion

i believe terry cannavaro puyol are all better

and mourinho said he needs an i.q test lol

[Chopstickz]

Cristiano Ronaldo gets hated on cos he's a diving little bastard. France for the win!

[Azz]

yeh but he does keep tellling the crowd to ssshhhh and does irritating lollipops when his team mates want him to cross the ball

[Egpt!?]

Cristiano Ronaldo gets hated on cos he's a diving little bastard. France for the win!

and you didn´t have the chance to see Nuno gomes play...that´s a diving champion. the trend started with joao vieira pinto a few years ago eh....
cristiano is a kid, let him get some more experience

[Egpt!?]

okay but carvalho the best defender is an opinion

i believe terry cannavaro puyol are all better

and mourinho said he needs an i.q test lol


when did mourinho say that and under what circunstances?lol

[Azz]

here it is ther are many souces heres just one

http://www.chelseablog.com/2005/08/18/ricardo-carvalho-needs-iq-test-mourinho/

[Egpt!?]

aahahah, we gotta love mourinho, thanks for the link :)

[CollarPoppin]

anyone watching score is tied 1 to 1 at the half

[A]

This shit is sick, 1-1... the end is almost near, they're on overtime now!

GO ITALIA, GO GO GO!!!!!!!!!

[A]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS, ITALIA WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE MY COUNTRY, GO ITALIA, THE GREATEST!!!!!!!

[Mackland]

hail the sun king

[Chopstickz]

you see that fag zidane do that shit? what an immature frenchie bitch. fuck france

Immature? For all the skill in the world that he posseses... headbutt > all.

Defintely gone up a notch or two in my books

[tedsu]

LOL Zidane >>> Figo in headbutt hahaha ... both from real madrid both captain and no 10 in NT ... still zidane is class, unfortunate for him

[deadstock_sole]

^ Ya. He was a rolemodel for his team and he blew it.

[deadstock_sole]

BRB guys, Im gonna go party. FORZA

[kankurou]

zidane is a badass
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/8697/zidqwned0vv.gif

[Azz]

zizou is still a legend no matter what

abd egpt yeh i love mourinho hes an amazing coach what portugese team do u like

[jwill]

zidane's a gangsta-haha, but Italy deserves it with a goalkeeper like theirs
-does anyone know what kind of nike soccer boots Henry was wearing?

[Egpt!?]

zizou is still a legend no matter what

abd egpt yeh i love mourinho hes an amazing coach what portugese team do u like

i´m a benfica fan ahah, the team that won the championship last season, this year it went to oporto again.
basically, we are the team that had mourinho and fired him or something like that and after that we sucked hard for a few years, since he went to Oporto and won whatever it was humanly possible to win ahah

[A]

Who gives a shit, Italia won!!! Lol sorry, I'm really happy for my country!

I'm also wondering why Italy is italicized in the poll...?

[Egpt!?]

i wish i knew what the italian guy told to zidane lol

[deadstock_sole]

Ya me too. He set him off somehow, but still. Thats not that good of an excuse to go and "gangsta" headbutt him. Maybe a push would be alright.

[Azz]

i wish i knew what the italian guy told to zidane lol

apparently what is going around the football forums is that he called zizour sister a whore or racially attacked him about his arab roots

yeh i know who benfica are they run manu and liverpool this year

i also know that when mourinho returned to benfica as porto coach he went out 10 mintes aerly by himself or something like that to soack up all the booooos as he never reached these heights as a player

[Egpt!?]

apparently what is going around the football forums is that he called zizour sister a whore or racially attacked him about his arab roots

yeh i know who benfica are they run manu and liverpool this year

i also know that when mourinho returned to benfica as porto coach he went out 10 mintes aerly by himself or something like that to soack up all the booooos as he never reached these heights as a player

that looks like something he would do ahaah.

[Azz]

are you talking about materazzi or mourinho

[Egpt!?]

mourinho, sorry for making it unclear 8)

[belladonna]

italy is italicized because that's the one you chose i believe.....anyways to all u non believers...show me the money!

[Azz]

i dont really care what materazzi said its all gamesmanship he was just doing it to put zizou off of his game

it always seems as tho when you dont step to a hot boy (big name player) your intimidated and when you do you are villified in the media like c.ronaldo, materazzi and most famously claudio gentile

[SoenSole]

word its all in the mental scheme ^