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artless.
04-17-2006, 09:02 PM
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dblockdosmil
04-17-2006, 09:06 PM
lol that was a good one man, i feel decived

Tronics
04-17-2006, 09:09 PM
Ermmm....

Nice idea on getting heads to click....

But the whole we need more heads to support up and coming brands idea is not correct. If your product is good it will stand the test of time no doubt!

So by you stating the above it seems like you've already admitted defeat, and you only want customers on a sympathy vote...

I may be wrong i may be right, just do your thing...

dblockdosmil
04-17-2006, 09:11 PM
^^^^^jesus christ dude your so damn wise, your like yoda

ackbar
04-17-2006, 09:12 PM
*** didn't click link ***

stussy2k
04-17-2006, 09:24 PM
Ermmm....

Nice idea on getting heads to click....

But the whole we need more heads to support up and coming brands idea is not correct. If your product is good it will stand the test of time no doubt!

So by you stating the above it seems like you've already admitted defeat, and you only want customers on a sympathy vote...

I may be wrong i may be right, just do your thing...


I registered to hypebeast forums just to back this guy up. No one should support indie apparel for the sake of being indie. What are you doing to help the industry except filling it with some seriously wack designs? The Wu joint was garbage, for reals, and unless something mad creative and hot comes out, you just lost your fixed cost (t-shirts, screens, inks etc.) Stop being a toy ass bitch. Get paid for making quality, not having everyone feel sorry for you.

dblockdosmil
04-17-2006, 09:27 PM
^^^^^^^^^^way to start your first post with a bang

ackbar
04-17-2006, 09:31 PM
lol. you misquoted gza for starters.

hasejun1985
04-17-2006, 09:45 PM
hey... your title and the thread doesnt really relate.
please change the title or i will kill you.

SLFMD
04-17-2006, 09:47 PM
Good one.

ngbetter11
04-17-2006, 09:58 PM
umm your designs suck...maybe you should come back and try again when you got some fresh designs

just being honest


you could have at least chosen a better font for the wutang shirt...


and clicking on a thread with the words supreme,bape,etc... doesnt really mean much either...

youre blowing out of proportion imo...

i just clicked too see some collabo shirts, or whatever...not cause they were big names

youre comparing it to someone buying a shirt just because of the name or something like that

yimmy
04-17-2006, 09:59 PM
pracitce photoshop

M.E.M.P.H.I.S
04-17-2006, 10:13 PM
Congratulations homo, way to make a jackass of yourself.

FYI, your designs suck dead dog balls and the reason brands like 10 Deep and Stussy get love are because they've proven themselves to be reliable companies. That Wu shirt looks like the contents of my toilet bowl after having a blowout.

Try supporting a growing independent label for once. its good for the industry.

(nice name, i'm lovin' the irony like a motherfuckin' big mac)

Try making a worthwhile design dipshit, 'cause another lame ass 'urban' inspired t-shirt line is really gonna help the industry.

And I thought it was obvious day on camp stupid. I guess I was wrong, that must be tomorrow... Oh the sun'll come out, tomorrow, better your bottom dollar...
http://curtdanhauser.com/AG_Collecting/Kit_OrphanAnnie_Big.jpg

DUM
04-17-2006, 10:17 PM
Damn. Jun is going to kill you...then memphis is going to piss on your body.

M.E.M.P.H.I.S
04-17-2006, 10:25 PM
then memphis is going to piss on your body.

EDIT: then memphis is going to rip off your head and piss down your neck.

dblockdosmil
04-17-2006, 10:55 PM
sick bastards...

nextup85
04-18-2006, 03:02 AM
does anyone remember the link? I wanna make fun of the wack wu shirt too :(

stussy2k
04-18-2006, 05:37 AM
http://www.beautifulsociety.blogspot.com/

$teady$upreme
04-18-2006, 05:58 AM
gimme back my 10 seconds~

artless.
04-19-2006, 01:22 PM
The intention behind the first post was to simply put the name out for people to become familiar with. This is a new clothing label that is being started and yes, these are the steps being taken to lift it off its feet.
It seems that people have taken the wrong assumption by saying the post was for people to feel pity and view the page and collection, which is far from true, in order for a label to get on its feet, you have to familiarize a group of people with name of the label and from there as many people have said the quality and originality of the products will carry it strong to its peak.
It is stated on the labels webpage: "the images posted are computer generated images that represent solely the concept of what is to be the final product, these images by no means repepresent the quality of our products but are meant to give you a "peek" of our concepts if you will, we all like to see whats coming up for the new season and this is how we are doing so."
of course the images posted are not going to be as crisp and have the quality of the final product, but these are the measures being taken to inform the public of what is being produced by the label.

sincerelyEric
04-19-2006, 05:17 PM
produce first.... then get the word out.... then post.

artless.
04-19-2006, 07:03 PM
from the start of the label our intentions were to take different steps then all the other labels in the industry,
and we have no regrets.
instead of waiting for the product to actually be on shelves and in stores to get the word out and start posting, we took a step ahead and starting doing so beforehand, initially there is nothing wrong with these steps we've taken but it seems when things change around here people get alil ruffled which is odd but funny.
if your label is brand new to the industry and nobody has ever heard of such a label who is going to take the time to even consider your product when first glancing at it? of course if you've got quality you might thinks its ill or what not but you might prefer to buy that Supreme shirt sitting next to it instead for the meanwhile, so instead of having that period of "uncertainty" we've taken these measures to inform a group of people that our products are coming, and that we will put out quality... that in no way "kills our brand" because we posted some of our designs before the seasonal collection is released the products are taken care and when the season arrives it will be available.
it makes no difference in what order we handle things all that matters is that ya'll know the name, the product is the product and we wouldnt embarrass ourselves by putting out low-grade quality. think about that. remember it.

stussy2k
04-19-2006, 08:05 PM
I don't think you quite get it. This is why I'm "ruffled":

A. Your first post gave no respect to the labels you titled in your thread. As a matter of fact, you put yourself above it by saying that one should support indie labels for the sake of your brand being indie, with no mention of quality. Theres a reason why 200 people lineuped outside supreme, and theres a reason why we're hating on you.

B. The fact that you're showing your drawings before the product is blantant hyping. You're trying to sell something that doesn't even exist yet, I assume to gauge your market. It seems like your "B.S" has no love for the art of apparel, but acting on say's law (Supply creates it's own demand) No love for that.

C. You say industry, which i find elitist, because it appears that you're seperating yourself from your consumers. Also, that's pretentious, because a run of 40 shirts doesn't make you anywhere close to a player in the industry.

Your whole "holier than thou" attitude is bullshit. No love for no product you toy ass bitch.

contaygious
04-19-2006, 08:11 PM
Your whole "holier than thou" attitude is bullshit. No love for no product you toy ass bitch.

Sonned LOL

artless.
04-19-2006, 10:55 PM
-if you read the first post correctly you would have noticed that i gave love to the brands that were listed as the title, i blatantly said these brands were fresh as ever so on the point you comin incorrect.
-and i dont think you quite get it....nobody is putting nobody on top of the consumers nor the industry because the consumers are the industry, without the consumers there'd be no "industry" what i think personally is that you got ruffled on the first post and went astray from there, we chose to get the word out differently then maybe you would have but like i said we chose a different approach to begin with and frankly i can give a shit less how you feel about that because thats how we're choosing to do so. if thats your opinion then we're glad for you and glad for you sitting this long to speak about our label because you fufilled the purpose for the original post. love or no love time is time.
-Aint nobody here trying to be a "player in the industry" what good what that do me? and why would i want such a ridiculous title to myself or the label that in itself humors me. if the designs are not for you then thats fine and thanks for your input, but for you to sit here and critisize on a upcoming label that doesnt handle their business like the big named labels who've been in the industry for years is ridiculous and a waste of time.
-and about the QTY. of products being produced is a even sillier issue because we chose to make a limited quantity from the get go because we dont want to have 5,000 of the same shirts made so everyone in Los Angeles can wear the same shirt to church on Sunday. This isnt for $ we chose to do this for the simple fact of the apparrel and nothing else.
-on that note i think you is the toy ass bitch here because you've spent all this time out of your day getting familiar with our labels name. love.

"if you aint being hated on then you aint shit."

bitch.

andrew3sixteen
04-19-2006, 11:15 PM
no one chooses to make a limited run of 40 shirts... it's out of necessity.

think about it - even if you COULD sell 5,000 of a shirt, thats still less than .0000000000000000001% of the world population. its not even gonna make a dent in the industry. the only time a brand is allowed to call something "limited edition" is if they have been producing other stuff in bigger quantities and are actively choosing to limit production on a particular design. think NIKE. they are allowed to call something a limited edition. for a brand who's never made one item, its a totally different story. you are making 40 cuz you cant afford to make more... or you are afraid that you cant move them all.

man, the internet is funny. artless isnt the only one who's hyped up a brand before a single product was made.... i've seen at least 10 brands do it here on the hypebeast forums in the past few months. it seems so odd to make a thread to big up oneself.... if your line is strong, i believe people will notice. the consumer and the sales will speak for you - and that is why you can very easily let your product hit shelves before starting to talk about it. quality work will be recognized. get your product into some stores - the retailers are the ones who determine whether your brand takes off, not the amount of internet hype you have. if they dont buy it, you're outta luck. hypebeast readers and posters are a very small subset of streetwear culture as a whole. some people dont even go on the internet, believe it or not. a general statement to all: worry about getting your product out before worrying about hyping it up or trying to make a 20+ page post about it on hypebeast. the market will determine whether you survive or fail, not a couple of guys on hypebeast forums.

stussy2k
04-19-2006, 11:16 PM
I believe your first post was somewhere along the lines of "would you buy something just because it had a name". obviously we can't check since you became a blubbering pussy and edited. It's funny how you don't even have your website in your own thread. The thing that struck me the most was how unfamiliar you are with the term "toys". Incase you were wondering, it means you're a poser, so try to fix the "trouble on your system".

stussy2k
04-19-2006, 11:25 PM
no one chooses to make a limited run of 40 shirts... it's out of necessity.

think about it - even if you COULD sell 5,000 of a shirt, thats still less than .0000000000000000001% of the world population. its not even gonna make a dent in the industry. the only time a brand is allowed to call something "limited edition" is if they have been producing other stuff in bigger quantities and are actively choosing to limit production on a particular design. think NIKE. they are allowed to call something a limited edition. for a brand who's never made one item, its a totally different story. you are making 40 cuz you cant afford to make more... or you are afraid that you cant move them all.

man, the internet is funny. artless isnt the only one who's hyped up a brand before a single product was made.... i've seen at least 10 brands do it here on the hypebeast forums in the past few months. it seems so odd to make a thread to big up oneself.... if your line is strong, i believe people will notice. the consumer and the sales will speak for you - and that is why you can very easily let your product hit shelves before starting to talk about it. quality work will be recognized. get your product into some stores - the retailers are the ones who determine whether your brand takes off, not the amount of internet hype you have. if they dont buy it, you're outta luck. hypebeast readers and posters are a very small subset of streetwear culture as a whole. some people dont even go on the internet, believe it or not. a general statement to all: worry about getting your product out before worrying about hyping it up or trying to make a 20+ page post about it on hypebeast. the market will determine whether you survive or fail, not a couple of guys on hypebeast forums.

Yo man, I completely agree. But you're missing out on the main reason why i'm hating on this fool. His first post was disgusting. Theres a reason why he edited it and i think it was a good idea. There was NO love for the forefathers(or mothers) of "streetwear". It reeks of hating on his other post too. As an up and comer, I would expect some modesty, building on top of what has made this scene what it is, but no, this kid goes around calling himself the industry (without a line mind you). Secondly, the guy's shirt says "Your shit is played, like the zodiac signs and sweat shirts" when the real line is "Shit's played, like zodiac signs on sweatshirt". WHAT KIND OF LOVE IS THAT? Is that how you represent one of the best hip hop cds ever? Special technique? Fuck that.

ackbar
04-20-2006, 12:11 AM
the guy's shirt says "Your shit is played, like the zodiac signs and sweat shirts" when the real line is "Shit's played, like zodiac signs on sweatshirt".
maybe homeboy is going for ESL chic.

artless.
04-20-2006, 12:20 AM
man this stussy2k kat has it all wrong, your talkin to someone you think is a fool, you think i dont know how the market works, i damn well know its easy to have 5,000 printed because it comes out to be dirt cheap and the money made is all pocket but like i said the first time this aint about the money.
my first post was in regards too getting people familiar with the labels name, as far as i know it was in no disrespect to any of the brands that were mentioned in the tile.
if i was here to hype my shit up you better believe id be sitting here tellin you its the fuckin hottest shit your lil pussy eyes have seen but im not here to do that, and thats was humors me.
we chose to make a limited supply because we wanted to it entitle the consumer who were to purchase the product to feel he got his moneys worth when deciding to buy a Beautiful Society product because he thought it was quality apparel not cuz he saw it on hypebeast come one now kiddo plus the fact that he wont walk outside and see half his neighborhood wearing the same shirt..what good is that? originality is a key factor in this process aint no point if even your little cousin got you on your shirt.
last but not least nobody is calling themselves the "industry" you comin incorrect AGAIN..
the products will speak for themselves like i said i dont sit here and tell you their off the fuckin chain by the most part your judging the quality by a computer generated image of the concept..wait to cast your judgements when you see the final product when the time i right, just like you went and dropped love to our first print just cuz you saw it on a shirt makes no difference. like i said before and again we wont embarrass ourselves by putting out low-grade products our products have our name that aint a joke to us.

M.E.M.P.H.I.S
04-20-2006, 04:22 AM
i damn well know its easy to have 5,000 printed because it comes out to be dirt cheap and the money made is all pocket but like i said the first time this aint about the money.

Hey retard, you don't have the first clue. So just shut the Hell up. I've got a good idea of the numbers several brands are running, and 5,000 is a fucking huge number. You'd be completely naive to start out with 5g'z in shirts.

And all the money made isn't pocket. How the fuck you think a company grows. Magic? Ask around and you'll find out that everything you make is gonna go back into the company if you expect to grow at all.

its the fuckin hottest shit your lil pussy eyes have seen

I would fingerbang my eyeballs all day, and I'd cry cooterjuice. My face would smell like pussy. That's the hot shit on the streets yo.

plus the fact that he wont walk outside and see half his neighborhood wearing the same shirt..what good is that?

Do you live in a closet? Like someone just mentioned, the size of the 'streetwear' market is miniscule compared to the population of any country worth mentioning. I know I've seen other dudes rocking the same shit now and again, but for real, you need to chill out on the exagerating.


originality is a key factor in this process

Yeah, 'cause I've never seen a Wu-Tang shirt before...

the products will speak for themselves

"Hey everyone, I'm a piece of shit. Don't buy me, unless you are tired of wiping with Charmin!"

wait to cast your judgements when you see the final product

That's no fun.

our products have our name that aint a joke to us.

The jokes on you!

BWAHAHA! ;)

artless.
04-20-2006, 12:30 PM
man this m.e.m.p.h.i.s. kid is a fuckin joke.
first of all i can respect stussy2ks opinions and criticisms because he comes with legit figures and responses but this m.e.m.p.h.i.s kid comes out with this ridiculous nonsense he calls english.
first of all every single post ive seen from this memphis fag has been nothin but blowing smoke up peoples asses about their labels and products but ive yet to see anything productive or yet anything at all come from this person that catches any attention from anyone.
second he sits here takin my replies and rearranging them to make some kind of silly kids joke out of them to humor himself because nobody else seems to be laughing at his lil ignorant comments. so go fuck yourself memphis. if your going to drop criticisms come correct at least. then maybe i'll take you seriously.

M.E.M.P.H.I.S
04-20-2006, 04:11 PM
Cry me a river.
http://www.famous-people-search.com/justin_timberlake/justin_timberlake_pictures/justin_timberlake_003.jpg