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idola
12-07-2006, 11:50 PM
yeah, this may surprise you but their are countless clothing lines(or band shirts) before 10deep that have used brass knucks on their shirts..

i decided to post this because some other guy that started a line had some brass knuckle on his shirt..and got replies such as..

"the brass knuckle is a bit 10deep?
it sucks when another brand is known for some things that makes it impossible to do the same"


"people are gonna think anything to do with brass knuckle is 10 deep"

"they arent bad at all...but the brass knuckles are exactly like 10 deep. They are too well known for people not to notice that."

"And yea.. we'r not saying your biting or got a good idea from 10deep.
Just stating that well.. 10deep is known for the knuckles.. so ppl will mostly likely asume its a bite.."

this post isnt meant to start an argument, as i am a 10deep fan but to inform people their were trends/brands of brass knuckles in other genres of style

here are afew examples:

Bury your dead, which has prob sold thousands.
shirt is in hot topic, and various of other stores,also sold at their shows
http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000CSBQ9Y.01-A2T938FU1B3YE6._AA216_SCLZZZZZZZ_

hoods:
famous locally and growing in california
http://www.eulogyrecordings.com/images/products/1244/hoods_iownyou_girls.jpg

drop dead clothing: famous among the scene kids,myspace people, has sold out several times,very successful
http://myspace-098.vo.llnwd.net/00684/89/03/684813098_l.jpg

final stand:
http://myspace-355.vo.llnwd.net/01080/55/36/1080836355_l.jpg

knuckles are a common thing in ca hardcore
http://myspace-783.vo.llnwd.net/01338/38/76/1338136783_l.jpg

there are ALOT more,i could upload them when i have the time..im just sayen..

Even tho 10deep is successful to streetwear, if it wern't for online forums such as this one and don'tbelieve the hype, i probably would have never heard of 10deep. Im also very sure these other clothing lines have never heard of any streetwear type brands. They probably never will too.

Common logos such as diamonds,wings,crowns ect are re-used and abused ...very popular among every genre of clothing.

Ive asked fans of hoods and bury your dead, and gotten a responce such as the brass knuckle was their idea or some form of that(i know its not)...basically sticking up for what they know and like,infact my friend said 10deep copied BYD...
If i were to ask a streetwear fan im sure 10deep would be top of the list for them. I guess it depends where your coming from and the background...

someone should be able to put what they want on a shirt, it doesn't matter what some guy across the country in a garage has made, just try to stick to your own thing,(and i know its hard..cause their are millions of people in their houses starting companies) you have to find your audience and youll be successufull

Its a must..if you start a clothing company people will say "hey you ripped this dude in NYor wher eevere u suck blah blah blah"..even tho in reality you never heard of the company..
just do your thing and keep building a bigger and bigger fan base

innovazn
12-07-2006, 11:55 PM
???

DUM
12-07-2006, 11:56 PM
Hammer did not invent parachute pants.

drifter
12-07-2006, 11:57 PM
Wow get a fucking life and leave. Hey did you know 10 deep did not create the all over print hoody either? And they did not invent streetwear.

This section of the forum really is garbage.

SOLE
12-08-2006, 12:00 AM
This section of the forum really is garbage.

F++++

RedOraNYC
12-08-2006, 12:04 AM
brass knucles are like skull n crossbones...it belongs to no specific person or brand 10 deep just incorporate it a lot in there designs and have kept people asking for more

idola
12-08-2006, 12:07 AM
RedOraNYC yeah you got it, thats what i was sayen..

IHaveAPosse
12-08-2006, 12:12 AM
they're obviously a point to this...

romeoso
12-08-2006, 12:16 AM
i always believed the brass knuckle was more of their symbol to represent their mission statement or something.

Strength lies in the hands of an individual (10 fingers), not in the approval of one’s peers.

af1snaikboi
12-08-2006, 12:21 AM
George Bush does not care about brass knuckles.

PROVIDER
12-08-2006, 12:37 AM
^lol

rasclaaat
12-08-2006, 12:37 AM
If you wanted to prove that 10deep didn't invent the brass knuckle then you should have some older examples of other brands using it.
10deep has been using the knucks for years...and i've never even heard of your hot topic examples.
I don't really see the point of your thread anyway though...i don't think anyone said 10deep invented the brass knuckles.

edit: i forgot to mention that your examples are truly sucky. you couldn't pay me a million bucks to wear any of those

iDANYO
12-08-2006, 12:38 AM
Yeah, I actually know Mike Hood, and alot of dudes in A Block...Hoods, On a Warpath, and many other hardcore bands, have used brass knucks for a reallllly long time...

idola
12-08-2006, 12:44 AM
Yeah, I actually know Mike Hood, and alot of dudes in A Block...Hoods, On a Warpath, and many other hardcore bands, have used brass knucks for a reallllly long time...


exactly. and that was the point of the thread

for the people that say
"people are gonna think anything to do with brass knuckle is 10 deep"
its not.

jawnly211
12-08-2006, 12:44 AM
........ok

yoyoyoyo
12-08-2006, 12:48 AM
well this all being ssaid, i will use brass knuckles on my next tee shirt design,,.,,but even though they did not invent it, they damn sure is all hell repping it hard on all the 10 deep shit, especially the Polos they got out , scarfs, tags, tees, like polo ralph lauren, aint invented it but sure is hell known for it

yoyoyoyo
12-08-2006, 01:05 AM
P.S. wow, this dude did maaaad crazy research on this to prove a point, props to that

timescheme
12-08-2006, 01:07 AM
You're an idiot. None of those bands have branded the brass knuckle their official logo such as 10 Deep has. I could find 10 bands/clothing companies that use the knuckle logo in their shirts AT LEAST once, that does not make it theirs. 10 Deep has used it in a more creative way, making it known as theirs among the streetwear community. BYD doesn't care if 10 Deep is using the brass knuckle, they didn't invent it. That's like saying BBC isn't the only company to use the dollar bill on their clothes...no shit man.

idola
12-08-2006, 01:15 AM
You're an idiot. None of those bands have branded the brass knuckle their official logo such as 10 Deep has. I could find 10 bands/clothing companies that use the knuckle logo in their shirts AT LEAST once, that does not make it theirs. 10 Deep has used it in a more creative way, making it known as theirs among the streetwear community. BYD doesn't care if 10 Deep is using the brass knuckle, they didn't invent it. That's like saying BBC isn't the only company to use the dollar bill on their clothes...no shit man.


i know, ...their are countless companies that do that..i never said that one company owns the brass knuckle..im sayen its been done before, alot of people have it on their shirts
The post is for the people that say
"hey you cant use a brass knuckle cause 10deep uses it"

so has a million other companies

you street thugs dont get it...

muhfuhkuh
12-08-2006, 01:15 AM
I'm the dude that started that line idola was speaking about. Here it is 8)

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q258/johnny_underboss/Underboss_Front1.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q258/johnny_underboss/Underboss_Back1.jpg

BTW, you can find these and other designs in our Fall/Winter 06-07 line on sale now at:

http://www.underbossclothing.com

[/shamelessplug]

Yeah, I didn't think anyone would really raise a stink about the knuckles (especially how we applied it). I don't feel that brass knuckles are the domain of any one brand. Neither is skulls or guns or parodies or anything. Hell if parodies were only Freshjive's domain, then brands like The Hundreds or Crooks and Castles would be biters, and who is saying that? :o

I'll keep building and designing and, hey, some people will like one thing, others might like something else. That's why we have a full line of designs :)

--johnny.the.underboss (that muhfuhkuh)
Underboss Clothing
http://www.underbossclothing.com

timescheme
12-08-2006, 01:17 AM
i know, ...their are countless companies that do that..i never said that one company owns the brass knuckle..im sayen its been done before, alot of people have it on their shirts
The post is for the people that say
"hey you cant use a brass knuckle cause 10deep uses it"

so has a million other companies

you street thugs dont get it...

I've never heard of people saying "you can't use a brass knuckle 'cause 10 Deep uses it." Street thugs? I know what hardcore is, I know who Hoods are. Calm yourself.

idola
12-08-2006, 01:23 AM
It was what people said to the guy muhfuhkuh(above) in another thread...aightt

here was the quotes... im just sayen alot of people used it before them...its dope i know..just sayen ha
like for the guy who said

"hey arent bad at all...but the brass knuckles are exactly like 10 deep. " all the brass knuckles are the same,same as the hoods,BYD, and everything else

others.....
"the brass knuckle is a bit 10deep?
it sucks when another brand is known for some things that makes it impossible to do the same"


"people are gonna think anything to do with brass knuckle is 10 deep"

"they arent bad at all...but the brass knuckles are exactly like 10 deep. They are too well known for people not to notice that."

"And yea.. we'r not saying your biting or got a good idea from 10deep.
Just stating that well.. 10deep is known for the knuckles.. so ppl will mostly likely asume its a bite.."

2n99+
12-08-2006, 03:41 AM
it all reminds me of a jeru line, "i didn't know hustler's confessed in stereo"... calling out pretend criminal mc's.

noone at any of the companies shown (including 10deep) has ever used brass knuckles, and neither have any of their customers.

i didn't know thugs confessed on cotton.

this pretend world is fun though, my bad for ruining it.

jobeboje
12-08-2006, 03:47 AM
how old are those examples?

trungtao
12-08-2006, 03:50 AM
Dude, you have to understand the average hypebeast isn't the smartest kid on the block. Most of the time they're probaly the dumbest actually.

Look at most of the kids that buy the Diamond Iron Maiden or Misfits tee on here. They jerk off while wearing that tee but most of them don't even know where those images come from.

trungtao
12-08-2006, 04:21 AM
When I think of brass knuckles I think of hardcore kiddies.

wallydykstra
12-08-2006, 04:53 AM
when Iiiiii think of brass knuckles, I think of the movie 3 o'clock high...you guys remember that movie? Boy, it was awesome!

This thread = lame

Mackland
12-08-2006, 05:19 AM
EINSTEIN HATH A TWIN BROTHER

yeah, this may surprise you but their are countless clothing lines(or band shirts) before 10deep that have used brass knucks on their shirts..

i decided to post this because some other guy that started a line had some brass knuckle on his shirt..and got replies such as..

"the brass knuckle is a bit 10deep?
it sucks when another brand is known for some things that makes it impossible to do the same"


"people are gonna think anything to do with brass knuckle is 10 deep"

"they arent bad at all...but the brass knuckles are exactly like 10 deep. They are too well known for people not to notice that."

"And yea.. we'r not saying your biting or got a good idea from 10deep.
Just stating that well.. 10deep is known for the knuckles.. so ppl will mostly likely asume its a bite.."

this post isnt meant to start an argument, as i am a 10deep fan but to inform people their were trends/brands of brass knuckles in other genres of style

here are afew examples:

Bury your dead, which has prob sold thousands.
shirt is in hot topic, and various of other stores,also sold at their shows
http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000CSBQ9Y.01-A2T938FU1B3YE6._AA216_SCLZZZZZZZ_

hoods:
famous locally and growing in california
http://www.eulogyrecordings.com/images/products/1244/hoods_iownyou_girls.jpg

drop dead clothing: famous among the scene kids,myspace people, has sold out several times,very successful
http://myspace-098.vo.llnwd.net/00684/89/03/684813098_l.jpg

final stand:
http://myspace-355.vo.llnwd.net/01080/55/36/1080836355_l.jpg

knuckles are a common thing in ca hardcore
http://myspace-783.vo.llnwd.net/01338/38/76/1338136783_l.jpg

there are ALOT more,i could upload them when i have the time..im just sayen..

Even tho 10deep is successful to streetwear, if it wern't for online forums such as this one and don'tbelieve the hype, i probably would have never heard of 10deep. Im also very sure these other clothing lines have never heard of any streetwear type brands. They probably never will too.

Common logos such as diamonds,wings,crowns ect are re-used and abused ...very popular among every genre of clothing.

Ive asked fans of hoods and bury your dead, and gotten a responce such as the brass knuckle was their idea or some form of that(i know its not)...basically sticking up for what they know and like,infact my friend said 10deep copied BYD...
If i were to ask a streetwear fan im sure 10deep would be top of the list for them. I guess it depends where your coming from and the background...

someone should be able to put what they want on a shirt, it doesn't matter what some guy across the country in a garage has made, just try to stick to your own thing,(and i know its hard..cause their are millions of people in their houses starting companies) you have to find your audience and youll be successufull

Its a must..if you start a clothing company people will say "hey you ripped this dude in NYor wher eevere u suck blah blah blah"..even tho in reality you never heard of the company..
just do your thing and keep building a bigger and bigger fan base

so whats your point?

Perfectsky
12-08-2006, 05:20 AM
10 deep is nothing but cheap shit material from hong kong or china.
you could probably buy those piece of shit clothing in the back alleys of hk.

Diamond
12-08-2006, 07:05 AM
The dude that posted this sucks at life.

VeeArSix
12-08-2006, 08:31 AM
attempt at intended point = Fail

steppingrazor
12-08-2006, 11:23 AM
the people that are stupid are the ones that critique lines saying "oh thats a bite, thats a bite"

thats how things run kids....people use similar visual elements, and thats it. end game. Its been that way for decades and it isnt going to change. Only now that people are associating a heirarchy to clothing brands based on who came out with what graphic first, that its starting to matter. It does if someone blatantly copies a design, such as Diddy using their Last of a dying breed graphic. but anyone who says you are biting 10 deep for using a brass knuckle has a hole in their head.

could be copying good charlotte for all we know. haha
http://bodypunks.com/images/MD_roll.jpg

She_Fresh
12-08-2006, 12:10 PM
you people are just tooo funny on here!! 10deep definately did not create brass knuckles and im sure the 10deep crew are aware of that but they DID make it thier trade mark for thier clothing line and in return they have made brass knuckles famous...well as far as putting them on clothes atleast.

muhfuhkuh
12-08-2006, 01:16 PM
steppingrazor,

Actually, I was biting off her (WARNING, link not for the squeamish):

http://modblog.bmezine.com/2005/12/07/bad-ass-brass-knuckle-implants/

I figured heads would rather wear their knuckles on a shirt :)

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q258/johnny_underboss/Underboss_Front1.jpg

steppingrazor
12-08-2006, 02:46 PM
yeah i figured you werent copying GC. but DAMN....i didnt know subdermas have gotten so crazy. SHIT. When i left the piercing scene the craziest shit i saw was some little devil horn implants.

Kurt Hustle
12-08-2006, 03:08 PM
Uhmmmm yeahhh.

Orpami
12-08-2006, 04:50 PM
F++++

That's being generous.

Jay_Bird
12-08-2006, 06:10 PM
the dude that posted this,sounds like a hater

Bei Area
12-08-2006, 06:32 PM
Idola, you are a brain noob

b00th
12-10-2006, 08:10 PM
hardcore music

SOLE
12-10-2006, 09:25 PM
for the people that say
"people are gonna think anything to do with brass knuckle is 10 deep"
its not.

who has EVER said that?!