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BOOTS, the producer behind most of Beyoncé’s material from 2014, went on tour with the cat-loving Killer Mike/El-P duo of Run The Jewels, and recently, he and the RTJ producer sat down for an hour-long conversation for the Talkhouse Music Podcast. Happening at the backstage of Cain’s Ballroom in Tulsa, Oklahoma, the two beat architects talked about a variety of topics, including their production techniques, their footwear choices, the mental condition one should be in before taking drugs, the end of the world, and cats. Stream the interview below.